Is losing Def/S.Def an effect of Spit Up/Swallow or a side effect when you lose Stockpile counters?

Aug. 4, 2014

For example, after you use Stockpile, you get hit by Simple Beam, then you use Spit Up/Swallow, would the Def/S.Def loss doubled by Simple?

Pleaselog inorregisterto add a comment.

With no anecdotal evidence for now, I’m going to do Theorymon and guess.

Source:http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Simple

“Generation V…“Simple now doubles the number of stages in astat changerather than doubling the effectiveness of each boost…“The move Simple Beam can change the target Pokémon’s Ability to Simple.Pokémon that receive Simple will not have pre-existing stat changes doubled.”

Source:http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Swallow_(move)

“Generation V…“The boost removal is now shown as stat drops.”

So theoretically you should have +3 Def and +3 S.Def after 3x Stockpile, after getting hit by Simple Beam, using Spit Up/Swallow will leave it at -3 Def and -3 S.Def

(I’m not gonna talk about Gen IV and lower, it gets weird from there.)